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Playing music from USB stick

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I've had it with trying to deal with Bluetooth music on my 2018 Spyder F3T. It's difficult to connect. it doesn't always play when I shut off the bike and restart it, and so far it's just died three times for no apparent reason. My Bluetooth player on my phone works great in my car, and doesn't have any of these problems, so it's not the phone or the phone app.

I'd like to put my music library on a USB stick and bypass Bluetooth completely, but I've never gotten the bike to see the USB drive, and I've tried many, many times. I formatted the 16GB stick for FAT 32, tried copying the MP3 files using both Windows and Linux, and I've mounted the drive as a portable device and deleted the system volume information folder. Absolutely nothing works.

I'd greatly appreciate ANY help getting a USB drive to work for playing music. It appears BRP Connect is no longer available on Google Play, so I'm using BRP Go, which doesn't work for a lot of things. Bombardier completely screwed up Android Auto to the point that Go apps are unusable.

If USB music won't work with BRP Go and I need to install BRP Connect on my Motorola (Lenovo) Moto G7 (Android 10)
and anyone knows of a source for BRP Connect software for Android 10 that can sideload, I'd really appreciate it. I'm pretty technical, and have done sideloading before. If I'm missing something for playing from USB, I'd love to hear about it.

THANKS !!!
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The radio isn't designed to read a USB stick directly but to accept input from another USB device.
So......a micro-memory card in your phone might work
Or just loading the music files on the phone if you have enough memory
On the '17 and earlier models, the GPS has a memory card slot.......and it does Bluetooth.
I think most people solved the problem with a Bluetooth receiver.
Thanks for your reply !


So......a micro-memory card in your phone might work
Or just loading the music files on the phone if you have enough memory
Any use of the phone requires Bluetooth (as far as I can tell). If I could depend on Bluetooth on the bike I wouldn't have a problem. If my phone had similar Bluetooth problems in my car I'd suspect the phone, or the player app, but it works great there.

I may have to eliminate Bluetooth entirely and use the aux input. I have a headphone jack on my phone. But that means controlling the player app from the handlebars which sucks, but it may be the only thing I can do.
I may have to eliminate Bluetooth entirely and use the aux input.
Yep. I think you have it figured out right.
I play music using my old "Classic" IPOD, connect it to the USB power with and adaptor and plug the 3mm jack into it and away you go
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I have a power port and a Bluetooth adapter installed works like a charm.
Update: I haven't found any way to bypass Bluetooth, except using the Line Input with another mp3 player, which is unacceptable. I messed around a lot with the settings on my Android player app (folder player), but that's a discussion more appropriate for an Android forum than a Can-Am forum. What finally fixed the problem was switching to a different mp3 player app (Media Monkey).

So even if your phone works via Bluetooth with another vehicle and doesn't work with a Spyder, don't assume it's the fault of the Spyder. Try another mp3 player app or several before drawing any conclusions.

Bluetooth acts up in general with many devices. The phone forums feature people with plenty of complaints. My difficulty was probably (just a wild ass guess) with how the old mp3 app handled screen timeout, and waking from pause caused by shutting off the Spyder. It's fixed now with the new mp3 player app and I'm a lot happier.
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You know, if you shut the phone off once in a while it refreshes the phone and things work better. Apple security is a bit of a problem when using BT on an iPhone as I’ve found (and other MC owners) connection problems when using AirPods and my car still had the phone listed but my iPhone lost it and I had to re-pair.
So far, I shut my phone off about once a week and close the music app unless I’m going to use it and turn it on when I’m gonna get on the bike and it works great. I ride a lot so I’ve gotten used to it. Many Spyder riders ride once in a while and forget how thing work then get mad when it doesn’t. Use it a lot and it works better.
The model year 2018 and newer do not have the option to use a USB stick. AFAIK
The model year 2018 and newer do not have the option to use a USB stick. AFAIK
NONE of them would play a memory card/stick directly because the radio head did not support that.
You need a separate device to read the stick and then connect it to the Spyder via the AUX input port.
NONE of them would play a memory card/stick directly because the radio head did not support that.
You need a separate device to read the stick and then connect it to the Spyder via the AUX input port.
Sorry but you are not correct. I have a 2016 and 2017 F3 LTD and both play directly from the USB port
in the glove box. You have to select "USB" as the audio input. As long as the USB stick is formatted FAT32.
Works very nice and is my main reason for not upgrading.

johnv
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Sorry but you are not correct.
OOPS.
That's what I get for ASSuming.
Now.....if I could just find that USB stick with my music on it........... :rolleyes:
Sorry but you are not correct.
I hope the person asking the question sees ALL of the replies here.

SO.....I found my USB stick with my music on it.
SHAZAM !!! It works.

I suppose that I am expecting too much for it to have a way to set the play to "random/shuffle" ??
I can't see any way to do that.
I found that it plays in alphabetical order, change the filename to the actual name of the song and they will play in that order. If you have the band name as the title it will play all songs by that band in order and not "semi randomly". One nice feature is that it remembers where you were when you last played it and starts up from that point.
I hope the person asking the question sees ALL of the replies here.



SO.....I found my USB stick with my music on it.
SHAZAM !!! It works.

I suppose that I am expecting too much for it to have a way to set the play to "random/shuffle" ??
I can't see any way to do that.
I hope the person asking the question sees ALL of the replies here.
I'm the person who originated the post. Thanks to everyone who replied. The person who said that playing music from a USB stick on models starting in 2018 doesn't work is correct, which is why my 2018 Spyder F3 won't do it. Bummer. It really stinks that Can-Am would remove a capability that was already there, in previous model's firmware. It costs them nothing to just leave the code in, and it appears at least some folks might want to use it.

I wrote a previous reply about how I fixed my situation by switching Bluetooth music apps on Android, so I'm good now. It took a lot of time and effort that could have been avoided if Can-Am had just left the USB music capability already in the head unit firmware alone.
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could have been avoided if Can-Am had just left the USB music capability already in the head unit firmware alone.
It's not just firmware.
They put in an ENTIRELY different radio and the new one likely doesn't have the hardware to deal with a USB memory connection either.
The 2018 and newer models (except base & S) have a completely new system which uses a smartphone for music. You can plug in an MP4 player to the Aux port but just pair the phone to the bike via Bluetooth, start ANY music and turn the bike on then select Bluetooth for music source.
The BRP Go app has easy instructions.
I've had it with trying to deal with Bluetooth music on my 2018 Spyder F3T. It's difficult to connect. it doesn't always play when I shut off the bike and restart it, and so far it's just died three times for no apparent reason. My Bluetooth player on my phone works great in my car, and doesn't have any of these problems, so it's not the phone or the phone app.

I'd like to put my music library on a USB stick and bypass Bluetooth completely, but I've never gotten the bike to see the USB drive, and I've tried many, many times. I formatted the 16GB stick for FAT 32, tried copying the MP3 files using both Windows and Linux, and I've mounted the drive as a portable device and deleted the system volume information folder. Absolutely nothing works.

I'd greatly appreciate ANY help getting a USB drive to work for playing music. It appears BRP Connect is no longer available on Google Play, so I'm using BRP Go, which doesn't work for a lot of things. Bombardier completely screwed up Android Auto to the point that Go apps are unusable.

If USB music won't work with BRP Go and I need to install BRP Connect on my Motorola (Lenovo) Moto G7 (Android 10)
and anyone knows of a source for BRP Connect software for Android 10 that can sideload, I'd really appreciate it. I'm pretty technical, and have done sideloading before. If I'm missing something for playing from USB, I'd love to hear about it.

THANKS !!!
Even my older Range Rover does that. It drives me crazy. How difficult would it have been to add that functionality, really. Would have been more use that the stupid radio which nobody uses anymore. The whole use of cables plus the Bluetooth connection thing is just annoying. Having to connect things in a certain order.

The display is too small to even read anything anyway. Why did they not just put a cellphone or tablet clamp on the bars and call it a day. I try not to get annoyed with it as I don't want to spoil my enjoyment of the bike, which I really like, but whoever designed the user interface for the entertainment and GPS should be forced to use it for eight hours a day everyday until they get it to work.

In fact the whole display is hard to read, especially in sunlight with shades on.

I guess I'm just old and grumpy but there you go.
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It's been a while since I updated this post, and my "journey" to get decent quality audio from my Spyder F3t has taken many twists and turns. I've learned a lot in the past few months, and for those who may be interested I thought I'd share what I've learned along the way:

To get decent quality music audio, you have to start with a phone that offers above average audio quality. Luckily my Motorola (Lenovo) G7 plus is an upgrade from previous models that had really miserable quality mp3 decoding hardware. You can do a Google search on "phones with best audio quality" to see some various makes and models. Some are quite expensive, so do some research online into more budget friendly models that got good reviews.
Generally, Sony and Apple offer phones with outstanding audio fidelity (from what I've read). Let your wallet be your guide.

I've spent hours processing mp3 files to increase volume and remove distortion. It's a huge effort if you have a lot of music like I do, but the difference can be pretty amazing. In fact I'm postponing if not cancelling plans for aftermarket speakers and an amp because so much can be done using software on the source files. Two excellent programs that I use are Audacity for distortion removal and other effects and MP3 Gain to set a consistent volume level for all my music (no fiddling with the volume control for every song). Audacity is available for Windows, Mac, or Linux. MP3 gain is Windows only.

If you have original music CD's, I recommend re-ripping (converting the contents to MP3) them with the highest and best quality setting which is 320 kbps. The Spyder F3t audio system is pretty crappy, so it needs all the help it can get. If the originals were ripped with lower quality settings to get smaller files, this will help a lot. The default setting in Windows Media player is 240 kbps, so if you didn't change it when you ripped your music CD's, that's what you've got now.

Like I said, the difference can be amazing, and the best part is it costs nothing (assuming you don't need to buy a better phone).

Good luck to all !
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Like I said, the difference can be amazing, and the best part is it costs nothing (assuming you don't need to buy a better phone).

Good luck to all !
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION.

Personally, I have never ridden any kind of "motorcycle" where the quality of my music
even crossed my mind for a split second.

Too much: engine noise, wind noise, tire noise, traffic noise......etc.
So that the actual quality of the playback would be hard to notice.

Just my opinion. But I have been riding for over 60 years. :oops:
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