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OK, so I think a large part of that decision should be how and where to mount it.

Using your phone would probably give you more mounting options.......including in your shirt/jacket pocket and just let it talk to you. And as long as you phone has a good battery, you shouldn't have to worry about running power to it while in use.

I generally favor an actual GPS unit but I also favor simplicity.
 

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I use a phone and the built in BRP Connect. The new BRP Go app works pretty good and the two stand alone GPS apps make it so easy to plan custom routes.

The processor phones have is way faster than Garmin or TomTom. In Genius Maps you set a destination then use your finger to move the highlighted route to another road. In Sygic you set a destination then add waypoints and rearrange them to the way you want.

You can also use Rever for navigation as well as tracking and it can start/stop recording on GoPros. You can use the desktop to plan Rever routes.
 

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I agree that simplicity is a virtue and if you have a decent and recent phone, you already have the navigation tools that will serve your needs. However, when I finally decided to investigate the Michigan Upper Peninsula on my ST1300, I was riding in the Hiawatha National Forest and needed to check my bearings, and then I found out (the hard way) that phones need to have a tower nearby to maintain their signal and way up there, my carrier did now have a tower. In fact, only one service (not mine) was available. (This may have changed now.) For a good portion of my trip along the southern edge of Lake Superior, I had no phone service and no GPS until I got closer to Sault Ste. Marie. When I got back home near Chicago, I bought my first Garmin Zumo and never had the problem of being lost in a wilderness area again. I still have that unit on my Gold Wing, but recently bought a Garmin XT, which takes advantage of the Bluetooth features of my Spyder. No problems wherever I ride.
 

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I found out (the hard way) that phones need to have a tower nearby to maintain their signal
That is NOT true. At least not completely true.

Current phones have a actual GPS receiver built in, so no "cell" signal is required to get a fix.
The problem IS.......that the phones only load small pieces of the MAP at a time and a cell connection is required to get the next piece of the map when needed.

I've been told that some phone GPS apps have an option to load bigger pieces of the map ahead of time.......but I have never looked into that.

Unless you run "off the edge" of the map you have loaded, a cell signal is NOT needed to navigate.
 

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That is NOT true. At least not completely true.

Current phones have a actual GPS receiver built in, so no "cell" signal is required to get a fix.
The problem IS.......that the phones only load small pieces of the MAP at a time and a cell connection is required to get the next piece of the map when needed.
Google Maps does allow you to download maps for any given area ahead of time which allows navigation without cell service. But there's one caveat, you cannot initiate a route without cell service as the path determination logic executes on Google's servers. If you have an active route and then lose service you're good as long as the route is active.
 

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I use a phone and the built in BRP Connect. The new BRP Go app works pretty good and the two stand alone GPS apps make it so easy to plan custom routes.

The processor phones have is way faster than Garmin or TomTom. In Genius Maps you set a destination then use your finger to move the highlighted route to another road. In Sygic you set a destination then add waypoints and rearrange them to the way you want.

You can also use Rever for navigation as well as tracking and it can start/stop recording on GoPros. You can use the desktop to plan Rever routes.
Does BRP connect work good. Does it cost to use
 

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I agree that simplicity is a virtue and if you have a decent and recent phone, you already have the navigation tools that will serve your needs. However, when I finally decided to investigate the Michigan Upper Peninsula on my ST1300, I was riding in the Hiawatha National Forest and needed to check my bearings, and then I found out (the hard way) that phones need to have a tower nearby to maintain their signal and way up there, my carrier did now have a tower. In fact, only one service (not mine) was available. (This may have changed now.) For a good portion of my trip along the southern edge of Lake Superior, I had no phone service and no GPS until I got closer to Sault Ste. Marie. When I got back home near Chicago, I bought my first Garmin Zumo and never had the problem of being lost in a wilderness area again. I still have that unit on my Gold Wing, but recently bought a Garmin XT, which takes advantage of the Bluetooth features of my Spyder. No problems wherever I ride.
Hi Tonypil,
I have about had it with Genius Maps (useless to me) and am not hearing great things about Sygic, which is another GPS app that works in conjunction with BRP Go. I'm thinking I may just bite the bullet and buy a dedicated Garmin GPS unit. When you said "buying the Garmin XT takes advantage of the Bluetooth features of your Spyder, do you mean when Bluetooth paired to your Spyder, you can get voice/audible turn directions through the Spyder's speakers? I can't see close well without reading glasses and "audio directions" are somewhat critical with me. Thanks in advance.
 

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2017 F3 Ltd. Not the latest and greatest phone. So it wont work everywhere.

Stand alone GPS. (y) It works everywhere.

edit.
Just checked and mine is an older 2011 Tom Tom Via1535. Lifetime updates. 5 inch screen.
Its awesome. Got a sucker type so windshield or and flattish body panel mounting.

I swap it between cars and bikes, when if its raining on a bike I pop a plastic bag over it.
 
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