[HigginsPowersports]

Since this engine is Mille-based, is it possible to put Mille cams and such in it and bump up the power?

 

[viperjay]

Very Possible

It will be interesting to see which Aprilia bits find their way into Can-Am Spyder engines. The good news is the after market has lots of possibilities from the get-go! Note in this older article listing tweaked items (including dry sump) in the Mille:

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/25april03aprilia2003rsvmilletuono.htm

"... You may be familiar with the Mille, but let's go through the specification sheet, nonetheless. The sixty degree v-twin has four valves per cylinder and double-overhead cams. It is fed by 51mm throttle bodies through an electronic fuel injection system featuring one injector per cylinder. The engine also features twin spark plugs per cylinder (for more efficient combustion) and dry sump lubrication for a more rigid and compact engine sump (a feature found on many race bikes).

Aprilia also justifiably brags about its patented vibration reduction system (sixty degree v-twins can be pretty unruly -- but this machine is silky smooth) and its carefully developed clutch (featuring "pneumatic power") to control rear wheel bounce.

The only difference between the engine in the Tuono and the engine in the Mille superbike is a slightly different intake manifold design and engine mapping. Having ridden the Mille R, the Tuono feels just as quick and, perhaps, even smoother than its superbike sibling..."

 

[evoluzione]

we are already there. here are a few pictures of what we are doing:


new high compression pistons and high lift cams

pistons in engine

we also have other parts including adjustable fuel pressure regulators, performance air filters, race airbox systems, big throttle bodies, stage one head porting, etc.


regards,

ken zeller

 

[Spyderman]

FanSpydertastic!!!!

Do you already do these mods on Aprilias?

Do you reprogram the ECU/install a programmable ECU?

Can you take a picture of the upgrade piston next to a stock piston for us?

Do you have a web site for your business??

 

[evoluzione]

here is a picture of the stock (220 miles) piston vs. our high compression forged piston:

as to the ecu, it really depends on what mods you are doing. we offer an adjustable fuel pressure regulator that allows you to modify fuel pressure. we also use an italian programmable add-on control unit but we are working on a dedicated powercommander as well. our web site is www.evoluzione.net but most of our engine performance products are not on the site.


regards,

ken zeller

 

[HigginsPowersports]

gee that didnt take long

 

[John Galt]

As soon as someone comes out with a PCM re-flash that removes the speed limiter and the program that makes you push the button saying you read the instruction card, every single time you go to start the engine.
I'll buy one

 

[HigginsPowersports]

yea that push button is pretty annoying, probably did it for liability reasons though

 

[John Galt]

we are already there. here are a few pictures of what we are doing:


new high compression pistons and high lift cams

pistons in engine

we also have other parts including adjustable fuel pressure regulators, performance air filters, race airbox systems, big throttle bodies, stage one head porting, etc.


regards,

ken zeller

What kind of gains are there to be had with doing the Pistons, Cams, Air filter, PCM and Head porting?
If we are at 106 HP now, Where would we end up?

Would I want to use the Can-Am sport exhaust pipe, Or would you recommend something else?

 

[evoluzione]

What kind of gains are there to be had with doing the Pistons, Cams, Air filter, PCM and Head porting?
If we are at 106 HP now, Where would we end up?

Would I want to use the Can-Am sport exhaust pipe, Or would you recommend something else?

all of the estimates i'm giving are based on our aprilia experience since we haven't figured out a way to fit the spyder on a dyno yet. but, we expect that since we have built several aprilias that have made well over 150 hp (one race motor that made close to 170 hp) that with the stock bore hi-comp pistons, stage one heads, performance cams, race airbox and exhaust we should be at 145-150 hp (and these are conservative numbers because there is still some tuning to do). but just today we installed our new performance collector pipe and a remus powercone muffler on a customer's bike and he was just amazed how different the bike felt (much crisper throttle response and stronger mid-range pull). not to mention the looks and throaty rumble from the exhaust (we didn't even remove the "db killer" since he lives in a quite neighborhood).


regards,

ken zeller

 

[John Galt]

Please post Pictures, DB test, and Pricing of your Spyder exhaust.
Any information you can give me would be appreciated.

I had planned on getting the Can-Am muffler, But am very interested in what you have to offer.

 

[Spyderman]

all of the estimates i'm giving are based on our aprilia experience since we haven't figured out a way to fit the spyder on a dyno yet. but, we expect that since we have built several aprilias that have made well over 150 hp (one race motor that made close to 170 hp) that with the stock bore hi-comp pistons, stage one heads, performance cams, race airbox and exhaust we should be at 145-150 hp (and these are conservative numbers because there is still some tuning to do). but just today we installed our new performance collector pipe and a remus powercone muffler on a customer's bike and he was just amazed how different the bike felt (much crisper throttle response and stronger mid-range pull). not to mention the looks and throaty rumble from the exhaust (we didn't even remove the "db killer" since he lives in a quite neighborhood).


regards,

ken zeller

Does the traction control/stability control still work OK with the mods?

 

[evoluzione]

Does the traction control/stability control still work OK with the mods?

yes, we have intentionally left all of the factory controls alone so everything works just as before the mods (though they will probably come on a lot sooner ).


regards,

ken zeller

 

[evoluzione]

Please post Pictures, DB test, and Pricing of your Spyder exhaust.
Any information you can give me would be appreciated.

I had planned on getting the Can-Am muffler, But am very interested in what you have to offer.

here are a couple photos on a customer's bike.

this complete bolt-on kit (including the remus powercone muffler in either titanium, stainless steel or black powdercoat) is $800 and is built to order (though we do have one collector pipe on the shelf).


regrards,

ken zeller

 

[John Galt]

here are a couple photos on a customer's bike.

this complete bolt-on kit (including the remus powercone muffler in either titanium, stainless steel or black powdercoat) is $800 and is built to order (though we do have one collector pipe on the shelf).


regrards,

ken zeller

Looks nice!

I have a few questions.

1. How much louder is the new system over stock. (Both with and without the "db killer"). What is the "db killer"???

2. Is this a complete exhaust, From heads back?

3. Do you have an "off road" version that gets rid of restrictions like Cats?

4. How quiet can it be and still be free flowing?
I don't want a "Loud" exhaust, But it could be a bit louder than stock.
I no longer want to hear the engine noise over the exhaust.

5. How much power do you expect the exhaust only to add to the spyder?

6. Do you have a website with more pictures and info?

Thank you for your help.

 

[nycsfinest]

speed limiter

here is a picture of the stock (220 miles) piston vs. our high compression forged piston:

as to the ecu, it really depends on what mods you are doing. we offer an adjustable fuel pressure regulator that allows you to modify fuel pressure. we also use an italian programmable add-on control unit but we are working on a dedicated powercommander as well. our web site is www.evoluzione.net but most of our engine performance products are not on the site.


regards,

ken zeller

so what is the most immediate thing that can be done about the factory speed limiter

 

[michaelsbigdog]

Upgrades for Can-Am

Hello fellow spyder's.
what i would like to see is a stereo. im sure they could work somthing out maybe a am/fm stereo/Mp3 player theres gotta be room to somwere they could put the speakers and a nice small amp,im gonna order a Red SE5 in sept. i cant wait ive test driven one on one occaison and it was very fun. ever since i seen it i gotta have one..I will most def be showing it off to eveyone who will look when i get it lol. stay safe out there and watch out for that little old lady in the nova shes dangerous