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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-27-2020, 03:45 PM
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You have posted some good stuff on here today. Thank you.

THIS post, however, is WAY off base on several points.

Their claim that the Spyder was designed to use ONLY a certain brand of tires.....which only THEY sell......is a boat load of marketing CRAP. In the US, things like that are ILLEGAL.

The Kenda tires ARE car tires, just very light duty ones.
The rims ARE car design rims, with the proper bead for CAR tires.
Trying to use an actual motorcycle tire on a Spyder could indeed cause serious problems.
But "upgrading" your Spyder tires to something better is perfectly OK.....and the OWNERS choice to make.
The size must be compatible, of course.

And your "almost certain guarantee" is just blowing smoke in the wind.
No warranty covers damage caused by tire failure but the insurance company certainly would.

You are not doing anybody any favors by spreading these unfounded rumors.

The situation is entirely different with a 2 wheeled "real" motorcycle.
I have to agree. Having been an insurance adjuster my entire career, there is no reason to deny coverage based upon the tires. Also, the original equipment is a sticky car type tire. The bike could not work any other way. The design of the tire is the same and that is why many have has a great deal of success with car tires. The compounds used are harder which can cause a problem in wet weather. Dealers sell the original equipment because that is what they HAVE to sell. BRP only has a contract for tires with Kendra. If other companies made tires for BRP they would be sold at dealers also.

I ride with the Gold Wing Road Riders Assoc, and I can state many. members have gone to the "darkside". Many have had very good results with those tires. I would everyone make their own choice when it comes to tires. Try them and see how you like the ride. If you like it, go with them. If not, go with the OEM tires.
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post #12 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-28-2020, 06:48 AM
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Has anyone had a heat shield installed on their right side vent on the limited?
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Dealers sell the original equipment because that is what they HAVE to sell.
No they don't. That is not true at all.
That is EXACTLY the thing that is illegal in the US.
Tires are a "commodity" item. There are industry wide spec's.
Some Can-Am dealers actually sell and install other brands of tires.......but they don't advertise that much.

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post #14 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-28-2020, 06:51 AM
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Has anyone had a heat shield installed on their right side vent on the limited?
This is a tire discussion thread.
It would have been MUCH better if you had put your post in it's own new thread.......or found another thread about heat shields.

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post #15 of 20 (permalink) Old 06-06-2020, 10:50 AM
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you are not the first to speak out about using car tires on motorcycles, And as usual, You don't know what you are talking about.
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you are not the first to speak out about using car tires on motorcycles, And as usual, You don't know what you are talking about.
A quote would have been nice......so we know who you are talking about/to.

Assuming it is ME.....you are quite wrong.
I've been riding for a bit over 50 years and KNOW that car tires are not designed to fit motorcycle rims properly.
They also don't have a tread profile that works good during cornering of a 2 wheel vehicle.
Those are facts; not idle opinions.

If your 2-wheel miles are almost 100% in a straight line, can you get away with a car tire on the back ? Yes.
Is it a good idea to recommend that to others......NO, not blindly to people you don't know.

NONE of that applies to a Spyder, however, because it is designed for car tires.

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post #17 of 20 (permalink) Old 06-22-2020, 05:13 PM
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I just put a new back tire on my 2014 RT. I asked the guy at the dealership about car tires because I recently overheard some other ryders talking about it. He tells me that the Kenda tire is what they recommend. Furthermore, (in Pennsylvania, at least) any Inspection station that passes a motorcycle wearing a car tire is risking his inspection license.

As "Mike" explained to me, a car tire will last longer because it is made of harder rubber. Harder rubber does not allow the bike the "grippiness" of the softer rubber on a motorcycle tire. While I'd like to get more mileage out of my tires, I'll stick with the SAFER option.

JMHO.
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As "Mike" explained to me, a car tire will last longer because it is made of harder rubber. Harder rubber does not allow the bike the "grippiness" of the softer rubber on a motorcycle tire. While I'd like to get more mileage out of my tires, I'll stick with the SAFER option.

JMHO.
You have been brainwashed.
Of course the dealers "recommend" tires that they make a HUGE markup on.

The rims on Spyders ARE CAR RIMS.
Car tires can be had with all kinds of different characteristics.
If you want soft, sporty with lots of grip......they make those. Pirelli comes to mind.
There are others.

If your riding consists mostly of going in a straight line below the speed limit, there is NO reason that you should not feel perfectly "safe" on tires that will last a bit longer.

As for the inspections, the Kenda's ARE car tires, just very light duty ones.
Do you think they will fail inspection too ??
A Spyder is not really a motorcycle.

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post #19 of 20 (permalink) Old 06-23-2020, 06:08 PM
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I drive a 2015 F3S... got 17,500 miles from OEM Kendas... prior to replacing my tires this month, I read all the back and forth arguments and comments re tires for Spyder. I replaced them all with OEM Kendas...
None of the comments convinced me Id be better off with anything else. The Kendas performed fine for my type of riding, never had any problems.


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post #20 of 20 (permalink) Old 06-24-2020, 07:30 AM
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The Kendas performed fine for my type of riding, never had any problems.
An informed decision, it would seem. And probably "right" for you.

As long as your realize that there are a LOT of other tires out there just as good or much better ......and at nearly half the price.

Whatever makes you happy.

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