I never take any posts I read on the internet to be "fact" without some checking. That is the case with the Ca. driver's license question. According to V.C. Section 12804.9 - Examination and Driving Test: Classifications
, a class C license in Ca is a 2 wheel license, so yes if you have a class C license you can operate the Spyder...because it IS a motorcycle license, not a general Driver's license as was implied. I think the officer was correct and the Va. post is wrong, at least according to the Ca. DMV website. But what do I know??
So anyone with internet access to post the original question could have googled the DMV and gotten the exact answer he needed instead of a bunch of speculation from afar.
Good post Woodz428!
Very interesting, I read it slightly differently (but same conclusion as you), as I read it (not a lawyer, but do deal in lots of legal issues), it appears you do not need a motorcycle "endorsement" to drive a Spyder in CA. It looks like under subsection 3-D the Spyder is part of the "standard Class C license", AND motorcycles specifically excluded from the class C license by subsection 3E.
Motorcycle classification/endorsement is in addition the "C" class, called "M1" and is very clearly only for two-wheeled cycles in Section IV, again, I'm no lawyer, but to me, bringing the section and ticket to the police station, a the second ticket should get tossed. I know in AR, you have 30 days to register a new vehicle, as long as you are carrying the signed and dated Bill of Sale, the officers will not ticket for that here.
(3) Class C includes the following:
(A) A two-axle vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,000 pounds or less, including when the vehicle is towing a trailer or semitrailer with a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds or less.
(B) Notwithstanding subparagraph (A), a two-axle vehicle weighing 4,000 pounds or more unladen when towing a trailer coach not exceeding 9,000 pounds gross.
(C) A house car of 40 feet in length or less.
(D) A three-axle vehicle weighing 6,000 pounds gross or less.
(E) A house car of 40 feet in length or less or vehicle towing another vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds or less, including when a tow dolly is used. A person driving a vehicle may not tow another vehicle in violation of Section 21715.
(F) (i) A two-axle vehicle weighing 4,000 pounds or more unladen when towing either a trailer coach or a fifth-wheel travel trailer not exceeding 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating, when the towing of the trailer is not for compensation.
(ii) A two-axle vehicle weighing 4,000 pounds or more unladen when towing a fifth-wheel travel trailer exceeding 10,000 pounds, but not exceeding 15,000 pounds, gross vehicle weight rating, when the towing of the trailer is not for compensation, and if the person has passed a specialized written examination provided by the department relating to the knowledge of this code and other safety aspects governing the towing of recreational vehicles upon the highway.
The authority to operate combinations of vehicles under this subparagraph may be granted by endorsement on a class C license upon completion of that written examination.
(G) A vehicle or combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating or a gross vehicle weight rating, as those terms are defined in subdivisions (j) and (k), respectively, of Section 15210, of 26,000 pounds or less, if all of the following conditions are met:
(i) Is operated by a farmer, an employee of a farmer, or an instructor credentialed in agriculture as part of an instructional program in agriculture at the high school, community college, or university level.
(ii) Is used exclusively in the conduct of agricultural operations.\ (iii) Is not used in the capacity of a for-hire carrier or for compensation.
(H) A motorized scooter.
(I) Class C does not include a two-wheel motorcycle or a two-wheel motor-driven cycle.
(4) Class M1. A two-wheel motorcycle or a motor-driven cycle. Authority to operate a vehicle included in a class M1 license may be granted by endorsement on a class A, B, or C license upon completion of an appropriate examination.
(5) (A) Class M2 includes the following:
(i) A motorized bicycle or moped, or a bicycle with an attached motor, except a motorized bicycle described in subdivision (b) of Section 406.
(ii) A motorized scooter.