I have the hindle and no juice box. My spyder runs just fine and have no plans to add the juice box. The only thing I am going to add now is the K & N filter. Was at the dealer last week when they put the elka shocks on and talked to the tech who has put several other kinds of exhausts on spyders and he said he liked the sound the hindle makes better. He also showed me something I had not considered before which since the hindle is longer that is why it does not sound so loud while on the bike but really sounds cool if you hear it coming. I was shocked at the weight difference between the stock and the hindle and I think it was Bob that reminded me that the Cat is in the stock exhaust on the RS thus the extra weight.
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